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Get Started!  Welcoming Information for Y-DNA tested members

Revised 02/09/2012

 

As a project member, you are provided four separate information sites to help you:

  1. The testing company's web site, FTDNA, where you login and can use their matching and analytical tools. Notifications of a ydna match will come from them to you via email. This is your first and most important notification!  You should login and check it out.

  2. A minimal Phelps YDNA web site provided by FTDNA which overviews the project and displays the ydna of members (grouped by the volunteer administrator).  Optionally provided there is a world map showing the origins of tested kits, and an accounting of contributions to the Phelps testing fund. 

  3. An optional and more extensive Worldwide Phelps YDNA Project web site  (the one you are own now)  which encourages new tests, helps you understand ydna and your matches, and directs you to matching family lines.  Provided by the volunteer administrator.  Content may vary greatly over time.

  4. For most lines a typically private Google group "forum".  You may request not to be a member.  Here extensive ydna and genealogical discussion are found.  Led by a Line Coordinator.

These four sites are coordinated/linked-to at the Worldwide Phelps YDNA Project web site.

 

 

To fully benefit from your y-dna test at FTDNA you should do the following :

  1. Login at www.familytreedna.com with your provided kit number and password.

  2. Upload a gedcom ancestry file  (click here for a definition) of the tested person so that others who match you can view this tree.  Login to FTDNA, click "Gedcom Family Tree" under Tools.  Follow the instructions.  Please ask the project administrator if you have any questions about this.  See all the detail here

  3. Be certain your FTDNA record shows a name and identification for the most distant Phelps ancestor of the tested person.  This name will appear in the "y-dna results" page here and in other provided reports.   Log in to FTDNA, click "Plot ancestral locations"  (under MyMaps), scroll down and enter or change the paternal ancestor information.    For example enter something brief like "Hiram Phelps b. 1819 England, d. 1864 Australia"  In order for this to be effective you must also enter the origin location name which will appear in a map.   Be sure to click "save" when completed.

  4. If your personal contact information changes, especially your email address, log in TO ftdna, click Contact Information under MY Account, make the changes, AND BE SURE TO CLICK "UPDATE" AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.  It will be helpful to also notify the administrator of this change.

  5. The volunteer administrator can make any of these changes for you by contacting him.

 

For more information, click one of the items below to jump to the section.... or simply scroll

 

I have the ydna test results, now what?  (at FTDNA)

FTDNA frequently asked questions  (at FTDNA)

Your Personal Pages at FTDNA

Using the FTDNATip Report option when you get a ydna match at FTDNA

Uploading your ancestry GEDCOM file to FTDNA -  Dont miss out on this!!  Revised 4/11//2009

Join Y-Search to match others who are not in our project

Your private Google Group “forum”

How does Y-DNA “triangulation” to a male ancestor 200 years ago work to prove his y-dna and my paternal line?

 

                                                               


 

 

Your Personal Pages at FTDNA

 

FamilyTreeDNA  is the testing company used by our members. Upon ordering a test from them, you receive an email from FTDNA when your order, when they receive your kit from you, and when they have the results or find  matches for you.   When you order, FTDNA will email  you a Kit Number and password, allowing you to log on to your personal page at FTDNA.  Before your results are in, there is little to see there, but once your results are in there are many facilities available to you. 

 

To log in, go to the FTDNA home page  You log in using the kit number and password provided by FTDNA. If you do not remember your password, and click the small words beside the logon box  "Forgot your password?"  and follow the instructions. 

 

Your official personal information is recorded at your personal page which you may change. Under MY ACCOUNT, Contact Information:  It is your responsibility to maintain the contact information in this record. If your email changes, you cannot be contacted by FTDNA or the project administrators.

 

 Under User Preferences a less critical, but important preferences should be reviewed.  Initially, your test results MAY be compared ONLY with others in our Phelps project.  This option is seen  as: 

 I want to restrict the display of matches only to my Surname Project

 I want my matches to be set against the entire database.

You may change this, but remember that tested members in OTHER surname projects who have not changed that option are never compared to you.

 

Be sure your oldest know paternal ancestor is recorded in MY Maps, "Plot ancestral locations".,  This name is very helpful to everyone. So please provide the identification of your earliest known Phelps ancestor.  This should have been provided in your order submission, but  you may enter or change it here.  Click "edit", follow the instructions and be sure to click "Save" at the end.

 

You also have the option to quickly join any other project and then ask for matches with them.  Simply click  JOIN PROJECTS and follow instructions. You may join briefly to see if you match anyone there, and then “remove yourself from the group”.    (Some projects do not allow joining until they approve)

After your ydna results are reported,  you should immediately log in and become familiar with the options.   Be sure to visit the options under "Y-DNA" on MYFTDNAHome.   Read the material there.  Most important, FTDNA will also email you and the administrator when you match closely to anyone in the Phelps project or in the full database (if you chose that optoin) . You should then log in and click the Matches link under "Y-DNA".  Kit numbers will not be shown, but you will be able to email the matching kit owner.  For those you match be sure to click the icon to the right of the matched person     It is the FTDNATiP report option and is an invaluable tool.  See more about that here.  And if they provided a gedcom file, there will be a clickable

The administrators are always copied about matches within the Phelps project.  They have access to your personal login page at FTDNA.   You will likely be contacted by the administrator, and you may want to contact your Lineage Coordinator if needed.  You should view the indexes of Phelps page to determine the right google forum and your lineage coordinator if there is one.  Typically the administrator will post the general matching information in the associated private Google forum where he will make you a member.  You may send YDNA questions to either the Administrator or to FTDNA directly. 


 

         Using the FTDNATiP report option when you get a match at FTDNA

After you log on to FTDNA and ask for matches, you will see an icon which if clicked will show a report called FTDNATip which explains how well you match.

"What is so special about FTDNATiP™?   FTDNATiP™ is the world's first program that incorporates specific mutation rates that have been proven to differ across markers, which greatly increases the power and precision of estimates of Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA). Coupling this program with the results of a recent mutation rate study conducted by the University of Arizona, and presented by Family Tree DNA at the 1st International Conference on Genetic Genealogy on Oct. 30, 2004, has resulted in an extremely powerful new tool for genealogists."

I strongly encourage you to log on, ask for matches, and click the appropriate FTDNATip report links.... and study the result carefully.  Always use the largest number of ydna markers (25, 37, etc)  for a given match.  IN ADDITION:  for those people that you PARTIALLY match at your FTDNA logon, you have the option to enter the number of generations that you KNOW that there was NOT a common ancestor.  If for example you know you did not match in 8 generations,  enter 8, and the recomputed years to the MRCA will appear.  The resulting years will always be LARGER.

 

FTDNA's Q&A's about this report is found here

 

Additional reports/tables provided by the Project administrator

For some of the Phelps lines, I  may provide some YDNA related tables for you.   I use a software tool to combine what you individually can see by logging on at FTDNA and asking for matches (the FTDNATip report).  The tool is a great time saver for me. It allows me to show your matches that FTDNA may not show because of the genetic distance.  

For those lines where I provide a table showing the years to MRCA, the years may be too large in some cases. The reason is that the tool I have been using is not as precise as the FTDNATiP report at your logon at FTDNA.   The only way I can present a more accurate table is to view pretty much what you can view and enter the data manually. The problem is that while the tool allows me to change the average years/generation, it is not as precise for the mutation rates as is FTDNA's report (FTDNATip) that you can view at your logon.   On the other hand, the FTDNATip report shows only the number of generations.  One has to multiply manually those years times your own selected years/generation.  (FTDNA suggests 25 years) 

 

 


 

Uploading your ancestry file (GEDCOM)  to FTDNA   Revised 2/09/2012

 

To allow others who match you at FTDNA to easily view your basic maternal and paternal ancestry you must upload a gedcom file which includes the person tested. FTDNA displays only the birth and death dates and locations.  They hide those born after 1905 unless you choose otherwise.

 

What is a GEDCOM?  It is a file format that allows genealogists to exchange information about their ancestors. In most of the cases it is compatible with genealogy software, allowing you to open files that were created with different software. The same way, other researchers can open your files when they are saved as GEDCOM files. You don't purchase a GEDCOM. To create a GEDCOM file of your family information is easy, as long as you have a genealogy software (this is the only way to get a GEDCOM file from your own family tree information).

 

How do you create a Gedcom file?  Most PC genealogy programs allow you to create a gedcom file.   You probably can use an online genealogy program like  www.sharedtree.com or at www.ancestry.com to create it. 

 

For example, below is the approach used by Familytreemaker software which can be a guide to the approach needed by other software.:

 Make a note of which folder or location in your PC that  you saved the file, so that at FTDNA you can point to that location for the upload..

 

Next..... After logging on to FTDNA with your kit number and password, click   “GEDCOM-Family Tree” under "My Account".  Step by step instructions are then provided.  Before uploading, FTDNA asks you which person was the one tested.   You select him and choose the degree of privacy you desire in the upload.   Presto, it is there.  To confirm the upload you can login again and go back to the process.  You should see either a option to view your upload or to delete it.  The resulting view provides mouse-over detail of birth and death information taken from your gedcom file. Once uploaded, any others who match you closely will be able to view that data as indicated by a BLUE ICON  to the right of the match. Click it.   And of course a one-way email to that person is provided.  (Kit numbers are not displayed.)

 


 

Join Y-Search to match others who are not in your Phelps project

 

Ysearch is a free searchable public database provided by FTDNA.   It allows free uploads of Y-DNA any testing company,  Gedcom ancestry files from your own genealogy program, and other basic information. FTDNA users are provided with an automatic upload of y-dna results.  One can then search for matches of those who have joined.  It allows one-way contact to others via email.  Other tools are available.    Sometimes you will find matches here that you did not find at FTDNA.

 

You must first register at Y-search.  While logged on to FTDNA, under Tools, click Ysearch.org. Then follow the instructions.  The first time you will be required to register and assign a password which you must save (or you computer may remember it for you).  Fill in the extra information.   If you are a FTDNA customer, your dna is presented and is uploaded if you  request (follow the instructions carefully.)  Your haplogroup code is also uploaded (you may have to enter that?).   You should also upload your gedcom (from a file created in your own genealogy program) so that Ysearch viewers may view your ancestry.  Once you have done this your personal page at FTDNA will have a clickable icon to go to  YSearch.   Important:  If you later add new markers or have a haplogroup change, you need to update the information at Ysearch.  

 


 

Your free, private Google Group “forum”     For help in using the forums, click the "Google Group Helps" on the menu to the left

 

On the Lineage Indices page of the Phelps Project web site you will find each major Phelps line with a google group link, and the contact for the coordinator.

 

For family lines with enough interest, tested members and other approved researchers will be able to view and post comments about their ancestry at a private Google group for that line. Each group has a designated lineage coordinator who maintains and owns the google group.   He will join you to the group.   You should view the past comments made there.  If you are not joined or not invited to join, please contact the project administrator 

The Google group is usually a private "forum" benefit for DNA tested members or other approved researchers. In most all cases, it will be private, viewable and postable only by approved members.  See the Google group link for instructions.

 

When you are made a member of a Google group,  you are asked by Google to create a logon and password for all Google options including the access to your  discussion groups. One Google logon will suffice. 

 

Identification of google members and their kits most likely will occur in the google groups.  Alternatively, If you want to contact a kit member ask the administrator to send them an email for you.  

 

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