Link to Phelps YDNA Home                    These lines are from "Unknown Phelps" of England, sons Henry, Edward and Nicholas

 

The Perquimans Co, NC branch is being maintained by Doug K Phelps, dkphelps ATsuddenlink.net   and Cathy Roberts  glroberts AT cox.net  Additional research now has concluded that descendants of Nicholas survived and are traceable to the present time.  Contact these persons to view the research and detailed lineages.  Currently a search is on for living male descendants to test. 

 Revised 5/18/2009      This lineage is being detailed more than usual  because of the intricate connections to North Carolinaro

To view a more detailed genealogy of this line link to the Phelps Genealogy web site.    ina.

Gwen Bjorkman published a well documented paper about Hannah Baskel and the line to Perquimans, NC.  A complete version of the paper including footnotes and references is now viewable as a pdf.

As understood she wrote that: 

 

Another paper may be of interest and is found at this site

 

Green = Triangulated common ancestor

Yellow highlight indicates disputed or no proof

 

Lineages displayed here were provided by individual ydna kit members, or their representatives, who are solely responsible for providing any ethical or copyright credits..

 

1.  Unknown Phelps – b. bef. 1605, England, d. bef. 1639, England    m. Eleanor _____

     2.  Henry Phelps - b. bef. 1625, England; may have been the Henry Phelps who emigrated to Salem, MA 16 April 1634 on the Hercules;

                    definitely was in Salem, MA by 1645; removed to Perquimans Co, NC aft 1662; d. bef. 1676, Perquimans Co., NC

       |    m. 1st , bef. 1645,  Eleanor Batter(?)    m. 2nd aft. 1662, Hannah (Baskel) Phelps (wife of deceased brother Nicholas) Salem, MA

       |     3.  John Phelps – b. 164_, Salem, Essex, MA, d, Reading, Middlesex, MA

       |           4.  John Phelps – b. 1670-71, Salem, Essex, MA, d. 1722, Reading, Middlesex, MA

       |            |     5.  Joseph Phelps – b. 1704, (1706?) Salem, Essex, MA, d. 1753, Reading, Middlesex, MA

       |            |      |    6.  Ebenezer Phelps – b. 1746, Reading, Middlesex, MA, d. 1831, Coesse, Whitley, IN

       |            |      |          7.  Ebenezer Phelps – b. 1768, Salem, Essex, MA, d. 1831, Coesse, Whitley, IN

       |            |      |               (7. Ebenezer above, added per findings of Margaret (Phelps) Swanson)

       |            |      |                8.  William Brown Phelps – b. 1794, Wiscasset, Lincoln, ME, d. 1871, Ash Grove IN/IL

       |            |      |                      9.  Nathan Phelps – b. 1841, Ohio Co., IN, d. Ash Grove/Mattoon, IL

       |            |      |                           10.  Henry Phelps – b. 1875, Shelby Co., IL, d. Mattoon, Coles, IL

       |            |      |                                 11. Raymond Glen Phelps – b. 1901, Mattoon, Coles, IL 1901, d. 1960, IN

       |            |      |                     Submitter Phelps (living)     Kit 43918, Haplogroup R1b1b2    

       |            |           6. Nathaniel Phelps  

       |            |               (6. Nathaniel Phelps, added per hypothesis provided by Margaret (Phelps) Swanson)

       |            |                 7. Aaron Phelps – b. 11 Jul 1777, Lyndeborough, Hillsborough, NH, d 10/1848 Robbinston, Washington, ME

       |            |                       8.  Nathaniel Phelps – b. c1811, Robbinston, Washington, ME, d. Waite, Washington, ME

       |            |                            9.  James Bion Phelps - b. 1858 Robbinston, Washington, ME, d. 1943, Waite, Washington, ME
       |            |                                  10.  George Phelps - b. 1881, Waite, Washington, ME, d. 1966.
       |            |                                         11.  Donald Phelps - b. 1907, Princeton, Washington, ME, d. 1955, Waite, Washington, ME

       |            |                             Submitter Phelps (living)    Kit 84233, Haplogroup R1b1b2  

       |           4.  Henry Phelps (1673-1722)

       |                  5.  Henry Phelps (1720-1797)

       |                        6.  Azor Phelps (1761-1837) (Azor was in MA Militia in Rev.War)

       |                              7.  George Makepeace Phelps (1816-1886)

       |                                    8.  Charles Baker Phelps (1850-1917)

       |                                         9.  Shaffner Leonard Phelps (1890-1934)

       |                                           Submitter Phelps (living)    Kit 115585. Haplogroup R1b1b2   

      2.  Edward Phelps – b. c1627, England, d. 3 Oct 1689, Andover, Essex, MA

       |     3.  Samuel Phelps – b. c1651, Newbury, Essex, MA, d. 26 Jan 1745/76, Andover, Essex, MA

       |            4.  John Phelps – b. 1686, Andover, Essex, MA, d. 1739, Andover, Essex, MA

       |                  5.  John Phelps - b. 1718, Andover, Essex, MA, d. 1789, Hollis, Hillsborough, NH

       |                   |    6.  John Phelps - b. 1744, Andover, Essex, MA, d. Hollis, Hillsborough, NH

       |                   |          7.  Luther Phelps – b. 1787, Hollis, Hillsborough, NH, d. 1853, Deering, Hillsborough, NH

       |                   |                 8.  Luther Brooks Phelps – b. 1814, Dunstable, Hillsborough, NH, d. 1865, New York, New York, NY 

       |                   |                      9.  Grandfather – b. 1866, New York, New York, NY, d. 1935, New York, New York, NY    

       |                   |                            Submitter Phelps (living)   Kit 63605,  Haplogroup R1b1b2         

       |                  5.  Johnathan Phelps – b. 22 Jul 1726 (See kit 90978 & notes at bottom)

       |                  5.  Nathan Phelps – b. 22 Dec 1728

       |

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       |                                  
      2.  Nicholas Phelps - b. bef. 1630 England, d. bef 1663 Salem, Essex, MA,  m. c1650, Hannah Baskel in Salem, Essex, MA   (After Nicholas death, Hannah married NIcholas'  brother Henry and they moved - with Nicholas' son, Jonathan - to Perquimans co, NC.)        The Perquimans Co, NC branch is being maintained by Doug K Phelps, dkphelps ATsuddenlink.net   and Cathy Roberts  glroberts AT cox.net  Additional research now has concluded that descendants of Nicholas survived and are traceable to the present time.  Contact these persons to view the research and detailed lineages.  Currently a search is on for living male descendants to test. 

 
 

 

 

 

 Crawford Felts - b: cir 1823, TN, d: cir 1870, IL  

Kit N65854, a Felts, with 37 markers, matched erratically with others of this line.  Ftdna's comment about this was "... with a genetic distance of 3 or 4 or 5 on 25 markers that the ancestor was likely before the time of immigration for this individual and the individuals in New England.  Without any genealogical evidence that there was a connection since that time there is not reason to believe based on the results that it was any more recent than that."  Hopefully future testing will enlighten us further.  Since it does not document a link to any other tested lineages, we cannot show a connection at present.   See further comments in the YDNA analysis below.
 

1.  William Anderson Felts – b. c1791, TN or NC (resided Sullivan Co., TN in 1850 & Laurel, KY in 1860)

       2.  Crawford Felts – b. c1823, TN, d. c1870, IL

             3.  L.  Kania/Elkana/Elcanah Felts  - b. 6 May 1849, Sullivan Co., TN, d. 5 May 1913, DuBois, IL
                     4.  Clarence Howard Felts – b. 21 Jan 1884, IL, d. 14 Oct 1927, Duquoin, Perry Co., IL

                          5.  Grandfather Felts

                                6.  Father Felts

                                      7.  Submitter Felts

                                           Kit N65854, 67 Markers.  Haplogroup R1b1b2    

 

 

 

 

YDNA ANALYSIS

 

The following tables show how well each kit matches every other kit in this line.  The tables were computed using a tool at this web site  which conservatively computes tested members can individually view at their logon at  FTDNA for matched kits.  Note that not all of the kits below may be seen at a tested member's logon at FTDNA because they do not display matches considered too distant.

 

The modal values indicate the ydna values most often seen and reflect the expected values of the common ancestor of these related Phelps.

 

Tables revised 7/12/2009

 

FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
ID D
Y
S
3
9
3
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
0
 		 D
Y
S
1
9
/
3
9
4
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
2
6
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
9
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
2
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
5
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
9
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
e
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
f
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
g
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
0
 		 G
A
T
A
H
4
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
a
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
6
 		 D
Y
S
6
0
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
6
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
0
 		 C
D
Y
a
 		 C
D
Y
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
8
 		 D
Y
S
5
3
1
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
8
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
5
S
1
a
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
5
S
1
b
 		 D
Y
S
5
9
0
 		 D
Y
S
5
3
7
 		 D
Y
S
6
4
1
 		 D
Y
S
4
7
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
0
6
S
1
 		 D
Y
S
5
1
1
 		 D
Y
S
4
2
5
 		 D
Y
S
4
1
3
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
1
3
b
 		 D
Y
S
5
5
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
9
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
6
 		 D
Y
S
4
9
0
 		 D
Y
S
5
3
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
0
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
8
1
 		 D
Y
S
5
2
0
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
6
 		 D
Y
S
6
1
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
6
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
8
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
2
 		 D
Y
S
6
4
0
 		 D
Y
S
4
9
2
 		 D
Y
S
5
6
5
 
modal 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 15 16 17 17 18     11 10 19 23 17 15 19 15 37 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 17 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12
84233 (Henry Phelps b . bef 1625 England) R1b1b2 13 23 14 10 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 15 16 17 17       11 10 19 23 17 15 19 15 36 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 16 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12
63605 (Edward Phelps, b.ca. 1615; m. Elizabeth Adams) R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 15 16 17 17                                                                                          
115585 (Henry Phelps - b. bef. 1625, England,) R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 28 15 16 17 17       11 10 19 23 17 15 18 15 37 38 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 23 15 10 12 12 15 8 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12
43918 (Henry Phelps to America from England in ship Hercu) R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 14 19 29 15 16 17 17                                                                                          
N65854  (Crawford Felts born abt 1823  Tennesse) R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 14 16 17 17 *18     11 10 19 23 17 15 16 17 35 37 12 12 11 9 15 16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 23 24 17 10 12 12 14 8 11 23 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 13 12
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

 

An unusual extra DYD464e with a value of 18 was reported for this kit only.  Previously I had included this extra marker in the genetic distance calculations. Considering there are so few kits in this group the modal would be distorted by including the single marker that no one else will have.  So the below genetic distances below don't reflect the extra marker from that one kit.   Members who log on to FTDNA and compare to N65858 will see this distance incorporated.

 

Genetic Distance
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 8
4
2
3
3


 		 6
3
6
0
5

 		 1
1
5
5
8
5

 		 4
3
9
1
8

 		 N
6
5
8
5
4

 
modal 67 3 0 2 1 11
84233 (Henry Phelps b . bef 1625 England) R1b1b2 3 67 1 4 2 13
63605 (Edward Phelps, b.ca. 1615; m. Elizabeth Adams) R1b1b2 0 1 25 0 1 3
115585 (Henry Phelps - b. bef. 1625, England,) R1b1b2 2 4 0 67 1 12
43918 (Henry Phelps to America from England in ship Hercu) R1b1b2 1 2 1 1 25 2
N65854  (Crawford Felts born abt 1823  Tennesse) R1b1b2 11 13 3 12 2 67
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 37 Markers
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

 

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years) TMRCA
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 8
4
2
3
3


 		 6
3
6
0
5

 		 1
1
5
5
8
5

 		 4
3
9
1
8

 		 N
6
5
8
5
4

 
modal 67 375 350 300 550 925
84233 (Henry Phelps b . bef 1625 England) R1b1b2 375 67 550 425 750 1050
63605 (Edward Phelps, b.ca. 1615; m. Elizabeth Adams) R1b1b2 350 550 25 350 550 925
115585 (Henry Phelps - b. bef. 1625, England,) R1b1b2 300 425 350 67 550 975
43918 (Henry Phelps to America from England in ship Hercu) R1b1b2 550 750 550 550 25 750
N65854  (Crawford Felts born abt 1823  Tennesse) R1b1b2 925 1050 925 975 750 67
0-225 Years 250-475 Years 500-725 Years 750-975 Years
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0041 to 0.0044, from FTDNA derived rates
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 95% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated
- Average generaton: 25 years

 

These two table were computed using a tool at this web site  which conservatively computes what each of you individually can view at your logon at  FTDNA for those kits you match. Note that kKit N65854 has an unusual extra 18 at marker DYS464 .  Since our tool would cause the modal to reflect 68 markers rather than 67, yet N65854 may not be related to the others,  it was omitted in the genetic distance calculations and Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years) (TMRCA) tables above.  This approach may be questionable.

 

 

 

Comment revised 7//12/2009

 

Kits 63605, 84233, 115585,and 43918 match quite well with one another - with descendants of different siblings.   It is remarkable that we are able to show a very likely proven ydna relationship back to an unknown Phelps in 1605 England.

 

Kit N65854, a Felts, has an unusual DYS 464e marker, with a value of 18, which will likely be an indicator for all descendants of the patriarch who developed this mutation.  This kit has no known paper trail to a common ancestor with the others.  It matches rather well with two kits, 43918 and 63605, at the limited 25 marker level, but not at all well with the two other kits  (See the genetic distance).  This seems odd, but could be explained because those two matching kits are now limited to 25 markers but may match badly with more markers.. Most interestingly, this 29 mutation is also in Kit N65854.  One would normally expect those two to be of the same direct lineage, yet there is nothing in the paper trails to indicate this.  More marker testing in kit 43918 would shed more light on this.

 

The unique 29 in DYD449 in  Kit 43918, Henry Phelps line (matching well with the others) might be a tracer mutation for the descendants of that line once the mutation occurred.  Since kit 84233 and kit 43918 have a common ancestor at  "4.  John Phelps – b. 1670-71, Salem, Essex, MA, d. 1722, Reading, Middlesex, MA"   but kit 84233 did not have the unique 29 (nor did the other more distantly related descendants), this suggests that the mutation occurred in  "5.  Joseph Phelps – b. 1704 " - or in his descendants.   

 

Because of the preceding and because there are a limited number of tests of two triangulating lines, with only one from one descendant of Edward (son of Unknown Phelps – b. bef. 1605, England),  we probably need more analysis and more tests to firm up our previous confirmations.

 

We are searching for a test of the known line of   2.  Nicholas Phelps - b. bef. 1630 England, d. bef 1663 Salem, Essex, MA,  in order to prove the move of his son Johnathan to North Carolina  

 

 

 

 

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