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John Phelps d 1747 Goochland Co, VA  Kits 128700, 107006, 73764, 57192, 130514, 160556   

     Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind. d Bulter co. Ky.  Kit 73393

 

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Green = Triangulated common ancestor

Yellow highlight indicates disputed or no proof

 

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1. John Phelps, d.1747 Goochland Co., VA, m: Margaret        See  the admin to contact the submitter of this entire line,  Galgan
      2.  William Phelps b. Bef. 1726 in probably Henrico Co., VA; d. Abt. 1810 in Grayson County, Kentucky;  m. Sarah Unknown   

          3.   Maternal descendancy    Kit 123871 MTDNA Paternal test.    
          3.  Julian Phelps   b. bet 1760-1767 Amherst Co, VA  (see Galgan for detail) ; died 2/18/1848 in Butler Co., KY, 

           |     4.   Nicholas Phelps, b:1800 in Warren Co., KY
           |      |      5.  Payton Robinson Phelps, b:1824 in Butler Co., KY
           |      |            6 - Golson Tolbert Phelps, b:1876 in Butler Co., KY
           |      |                                 Descendant Kit 130514    Haplogroup E1b1a  

           |     4.  William Phelps b. 1788, Kentucky, d. 1860

           |      |      5.  Sgt. John Lee Phelps b. Abt 1820, Butler Co., Kentucky, d. 1904,  Butler Co., Kentucky                   
           |      |            6.  Nicholas "Big Nick" Allen Phelps b. 16 Aug 1851, Butler Co., KY,  d. 6 Dec 1931, Butler Co., KY 

           |      |                  7.   Hershel Porter Phelps b. 1877, d. 9 Feb 1971, Butler Co., KY 

           |      |                                  Descendant  Kit 128700    Haplogroup E1b1a   

           |     4.  James L. Phelps, b. 5 Feb 1789 Green, KY, d. 14 Jul 1862 Butler Co., KY
           |             5.  James B. Phelps, b. 1815 Butler Co., KY, d. ??; m. Delilah R. Phelps (daughter of a Thomas Phelps) 8 Nov 1839
           |                   6.   William Kid Phelps, b. 7 Sep. 1849, Butler Co., KY, d. 8 Nov. 1880 Threlkel, Butler Co., KY
           |                          7.   Silas James Phelps, b. 23 Mar 1881 Brooklyn, Butler Co., KY, d. 22 Dec. 1958 Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY

           |                                       Descendant    kit 160556  Haplogroup E1b1a    

           3.   Nicholas Phelps b: 1759 Lunenburg Co., VA, d:  ca. 1840 in  Butler Co., KY;   (MG's line)
                  4.  Jesse Phelps, b: 1804 - wife, Nancy Pitman 

                  |     5.  Solomon Phelps, b. May 06, 1830 Butler Co, KY, d.  April 10, 1906.                  

                  |           6.   Powell Crittendon Phelps, b. 12/ 29/ 1859  Butler Co, KY,  died February 18, 1935.

                  |                                Descendant      Kit107006  Haplogroup E1b1a   

                 4. Julian R. Phelps b: 1801 Warren Co., KY,   d. 3/1856 Butler Co, KY.  
                       5.   James Melvin Phelps, b: 1827 Butler Co., KY,  (Galgan's line)

                       |      6.   Bedford Nail Phelps, b: 1855, d:1896  in Butler Co., KY                                                                  
                       |     7.   Mack Thomas Phelps, b: September 14, 1885, Butler co., KY
                        |                          Descendant     Kit 73764    Proxy M.G.  )Haplogroup E1b1a   
                       5.   Bedford F. Phelps, b: 11/23/1829 Butler Co., KY,  d. 4/18/1891 Butler Co., KY, 

                              6.   Thomas J. Phelps  b. 4/23/1862  d. 1/31/1927 Butler Co., KY,  
                                                  Descendant  Kit 57192    Click here to contact Proxy M.G.  Haplogroup E1b1a 

 


 

Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind.  d Bulter co. KY.

 

Kit 73393 below matches 25 of 25 with kits 57192 above;  24 of 25 with kit 73764 above; and 23 of 25 with kit 107006 above..  The submitted ancestry goes back to Julian N Phelps. However some key researchers are convinced this line links to   3.  Julian Phelps  b. bet 1760-1767 Amherst Co, VA  (see Galgan for detail) ; died 2/18/1848 in Butler Co., KY,   m.  Nancy Abbott;  m. Joanna Jones  abt 1777 Charlotte CO, VA

 

Because this kit matches the others so well, this line is definitely related to the John Phelps of Goochland line in some way: 

 

1.  Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind.  d Bulter co. KY.
      2.  U.S.Grant Phelps b. 1868 Spencer Co., Ind.  d. b.c. KY.
                  Descendant  Kit 73393   Haplogroup E1b1a     kermitphelps At yahoo.com

                      

 

                                                                                 YDNA ANALYSIS                    Tables and comment updated 09/21/2009

 

FTDNA's comment:  "It is obvious from our observation of 10's of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. Therefore not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes. The markers in red  below have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree."  FTDNA also says that when a red fast moving marker mutation alone implies a wrong branch, strong consideration or preference should be given to proven paper trails..  

FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
ID D
Y
S
3
9
3
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
0
 		 D
Y
S
1
9
/
3
9
4
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
2
6
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
9
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
2
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
5
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
9
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
e
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
f
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
g
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
0
 		 G
A
T
A
H
4
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
a
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
6
 		 D
Y
S
6
0
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
6
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
0
 		 C
D
Y
a
 		 C
D
Y
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
8
 
modal 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18 16 18   10 10 19 20 15 13 16 19 33 33 12 11
128700 (John Phelps died 1747 Goochland Va) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31                                                        
107006 (John Phelps, d:1747, in Goochland) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 13 16 16 16 18                          
73393  (Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind.) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18                              
57192  (John Phelps b bef 1700 Goochland) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18       10 10 19 20 15 13 16 19 32 33 12 11
160556  E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18       10 10 19 20 15 13 16 19 33 34 12 11
73764  (John Phelps, d:1747 Goochland Co., VA,) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 18 11 12 13 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18                              
130514  (John Phelps, d:1747 in Goochland Co., VA) E1b1a 14 21 16 10 14 19 11 12 13 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 22 32 13 16 16 18       10 10 19 20 16 13 16 19 33 33 12 11
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

 

The analyses presented here uses a tool which simulates FTDNA's analysis but may be slightly less accurate. Similar data in these tables can be seen at your logon at FTDNA.

 Below is a table comparing every member of this line to every other line to show the genetic distances.   Similar information is found by logging on at FTDNA and asking for a ydna match.   Note the number of tested markers in the white diagonals and then click on the blue FTDNA link for further information about the displayed distance number.   The first row of the table below indicates the "genetic distance" of each kit to the modal values.  Modal means most frequently observed value and is often the value of the common ancestor, possibly that of John d 1747. 

NOTE: Kit 107006 showed two additional markers which were omitted in this analysis. 

Genetic Distance
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 1
2
8
7
0
0

 		 1
0
7
0
0
6

 		 7
3
3
9
3


 		 5
7
1
9
2

 		 1
6
0
5
5
6

 		 7
3
7
6
4

 		 1
3
0
5
1
4

 
modal 37 0 1 0 1 1 1 3
128700 George Bentley Phelps (John Phelps died 1747 Goochland Va) E1b1a 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 2
107006 Leslie Phelps (John Phelps, d:1747, in Goochland) E1b1a 1 0 25 1 1 1 2 3
73393 Kermit Phelps (Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind.) E1b1a 0 0 1 25 0 0 1 2
57192 Noah Phelps (John Phelps b bef 1700 Goochland) E1b1a 1 0 1 0 37 2 1 4
160556 Timothy R. Phelps E1b1a 1 0 1 0 2 37 1 4
73764 Steven W. Phelps (John Phelps, d:1747 Goochland Co., VA,) E1b1a 1 0 2 1 1 1 25 3
130514 Roger A. Phelps (John Phelps, d:1747 in Goochland Co., VA) E1b1a 3 2 3 2 4 4 3 37
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 37 Markers
- Hybrid mutation model is used
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

 

Below is a table comparing every member of this line to every other line showing the time within which they might share a Most Recent Common Ancestor.

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Years)
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 1
2
8
7
0
0

 		 1
0
7
0
0
6

 		 7
3
3
9
3


 		 5
7
1
9
2

 		 1
6
0
5
5
6

 		 7
3
7
6
4

 		 1
3
0
5
1
4

 
modal 37 775 550 350 325 325 550 500
128700 (John Phelps died 1747 Goochland Va) E1b1a 775 12 775 775 775 775 775 1800
107006 (John Phelps, d:1747, in Goochland) E1b1a 550 775 25 550 550 550 750 925
73393  (Julian N. Phelps b. 1836 Warrick Co. Ind.) E1b1a 350 775 550 25 350 350 550 750
57192  (John Phelps b bef 1700 Goochland) E1b1a 325 775 550 350 37 400 550 600
160556  E1b1a 325 775 550 350 400 37 550 600
73764  (John Phelps, d:1747 Goochland Co., VA,) E1b1a 550 775 750 550 550 550 25 925
130514  (John Phelps, d:1747 in Goochland Co., VA) E1b1a 500 1800 925 750 600 600 925 37
0-225 Years 250-475 Years 500-725 Years 750-975 Years
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0040 to 0.0054, from FTDNA derived rates
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 95% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated
- Average generaton: 25 years

 

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