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                            James Phelps, Sr  b. bef. 1740 Gates Co, NC d. 1794,

 

 

Green = Triangulated common ancestor

Yellow highlight indicates disputed or no proof

 

                                                                 Revised 2/22/2010

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0.  Unknown Phelps – possibly from the Suffolk area (originally called “Constant’s Wharf”) in Nansemond County, Virginia. 

     1.  James Phelps,  b. Abt. 1725?  bef 1740 Gates co, NC ??,  d. 25 Apr 1794,Gates Co., NC,
          2.  Henry Phelps,  b. Abt. 1755 or b. bef. 1755, Bertie Co., NC, d. Abt. 1818,  Bertie Co., NC   

          |      3.  James Phelps,  b. 23 Jun 1776, Bertie Co., NC, d. 17 Sep 1849,Bertie Co., NC,

          |            4.  John Phelps, b. 7 May 1821, Bertie Co, NC,  d. unknown or after 1870, Bertie county, NC

          |             |    5.  Charles D. Phelps, b. 1854, Bertie Co., NC, d.?, Bertie Co, NC

          |             |           6.   William Sylvester Phelps, b. Aug. 29, 1876, Bertie Co., NC, d. May 31, 1960, Bertie Co

          |             |                                Descendant Kit 180009  Haplogroup R1b1b2  

          |            4.  Charles David Phelps,  b. 17 Aug 1833,  Bertie Co., NC,  d. 02 Jan 1900,Bertie Co., NC,  m. CASTILOE, Caroline
          |                  5.  Robert Redden,  b. 16 Apr 1858,  Windsor, Bertie Co., NC,  d. 23 Sep 1929,Bertie Co., NC
          |                        6.  William Miles Phelps,  b. 26 Aug 1895,  Bertie Co., NC,  d. 10 Dec 1963,Bertie Co., NC,
          |                                            Descendant   Kit 63489  Haplogroup R1b1b2                                  

          2.  Micajah Phelps  b. bef 1765 (OR)  b. 1760 Gates Co, NC, (originally Hertford Co)  moved to Bertie Co 1803,  d. 1816 Bertie Co, NC,

                 3.  John Phelps  b. ca. 1780, d. 1821 Bertie Co, NC

                       4.  Asa Biggs Phelps - b. 1820 Bertie Co, NC  d. 1897 Bertie Co, NC,

                       |       5.   Gray Worley Phelps b. 1850 Bertie Co, NC, d. 1923 Bertie Co, NC,

                       |       |      6.  David Sutton Phelps, Sr. (b. 1895 Bertie Co, NC, d. 1954 Bertie Co, NC

                       |       |             Descendant   KIT 93189   Haplogroup R1b1b2     Deceased

                       |       5.   John Rueben Phelps 

                       |              6.   William Roy Phelps, Sr.

                       |                   Descendant   Kit 89511 .  Haplogroup R1b1b2   Ancestry has not been verified but conforms to others who have proof   

.                      4.    Reubin L. PHELPS (b. 1817 - aft. 1870)

                               5.   Miles Thomas PHELPS (b. 1855 - d. 1914)

                                     6.    Howard Talmadge PHELPS (b. 1898 - d. 1977)

                                             Descendant kit 190193  Haplogroup R1b1b2

 

 

                                                              YDNA Analysis   2/23/2011  (minor changes)

 

Further research by members and Cathy Roberts now indicates that kit 180009 can be merged into the lineage as seen above.  The research is planned to be displayed at the James Phelps of Gates Google discussion group.   We are fortunate to have tests triangulating to three different common ancestors.  They are identified in green above.   In those cases we can probably deduce the ydna values of those common ancestors..

 

Because of the YDNA closeness of these men and some good paper trails,  I feel we can conclude that this line back to James Phelps of Gates Co. is "very likely y-dna proven".

Additionally, it is now evident that this James Phelps of Gates line is not related to the Nicholas Phelps line of Perquimans Co.   Y-DNA does not support it nor has any solid paper trail research concluded the likelihood.

 

 

 

This table shows the marker values of all the related lines with color codes indicating mutations from a potential earlier common ancestor.  The first row list the Modal values, the likely values of the earliest common paternal ancestor.  Interesting is that while few mutations have occurred no two men have the identical haplotype (or same marker values)

FTDNA's comment:  "It is obvious from our observation of 10's of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. Therefore not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes. The markers in red  below have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree."  FTDNA also says that when a red fast moving marker mutation alone implies a wrong branch, strong consideration or preference should be given to proven paper trails..    They also add that where there are no merging paper trails but fast moving markers of tested men do match, it may be deduced that the matching men may be from the same branch. .  

FTDNA Configuration - DNA Results Comparison
ID D
Y
S
3
9
3
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
0
 		 D
Y
S
1
9
/
3
9
4
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
a
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
5
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
2
6
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
9
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
1
 		 D
Y
S
3
9
2
 		 D
Y
S
3
8
9
-
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
9
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
5
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
4
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
7
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
8
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
9
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
a
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
c
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
4
d
 		 D
Y
S
4
6
0
 		 G
A
T
A
H
4
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
a
 		 Y
C
A
I
I
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
5
6
 		 D
Y
S
6
0
7
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
6
 		 D
Y
S
5
7
0
 		 C
D
Y
a
 		 C
D
Y
b
 		 D
Y
S
4
4
2
 		 D
Y
S
4
3
8
 
modal 13 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 17 17 18 11 10 19 23 18 14 17 17 36 40 13 12
180009 John Phelps, d. Bertie Co, NC R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 17 17 18 11 10 19 23 18 14 17 17 36 39 13 12
63489 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, d April 25th, 1794 in R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 17 17 18 11 10 19 23 18 14 17 17 36 40 13 12
93189 James Phelps, b. bef 1740 Gates co, NC R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 12 15 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 17 17 18                        
89511 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 17 17 18                        
190903 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 13 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 13 13 13 29 19 9 9 11 11 23 15 19 29 15 17 17 18                        
Distance from reference: Zero One Two Three+

 

This a table compares every member of this line to every other member showing the genetic distances.  SImilar information can be seen by logging in to ftdna witih your kit number and asking for ydna matches.

Genetic Distance
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 1
8
0
0
0
9

 		 6
3
4
8
9


 		 9
3
1
8
9

 		 8
9
5
1
1

 		 1
9
0
9
0
3

 
modal 37 1 0 1 0 1
180009 John Phelps, d. Bertie Co, NC R1b1b2 1 37 1 1 0 1
63489 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, d April 25th, 1794 in R1b1b2 0 1 37 1 0 1
93189 James Phelps, b. bef 1740 Gates co, NC R1b1b2 1 1 1 25 1 2
89511 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 0 0 0 1 25 1
190903 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 1 1 1 2 1 25
Related Probably Related Possibly Related
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 12 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 25 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 37 Markers
FTDNA's Interpreting Genetic Distance for 67 Markers
- Hybrid mutation model is used
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested

 

 

This table compares every member of this line to every other member to indicate the generations within which one would expect a common ancestor, with the probability set as shown in the table. The number of markers of each kit is shown in the diagonal white boxes.  Those having more markers will influence the modal and their closeness to it.  When a kit with fewer markers is compared to a kit with more markers, the comparison is made with few markers..  SImilar information can be seen by logging in to ftdna witih your kit number and asking for ydna matches, then selecting the FTDNATip  report.

 

Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (Generations)
ID m
o
d
a
l
 		 1
8
0
0
0
9

 		 6
3
4
8
9


 		 9
3
1
8
9

 		 8
9
5
1
1

 		 1
9
0
9
0
3

 
modal 37 10 6 18 10 18
180009 John Phelps, d. Bertie Co, NC R1b1b2 10 37 10 18 10 18
63489 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, d April 25th, 1794 in R1b1b2 6 10 37 18 10 18
93189 James Phelps, b. bef 1740 Gates co, NC R1b1b2 18 18 18 25 18 25
89511 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 10 10 10 18 25 18
190903 James Phelps, b. Abt. 1725, Gates Co NC R1b1b2 18 18 18 25 18 25
0-9 Generations 10-19 Generations 20-29 Generations 30-39 Generations
- Infinite allele mutation model is used
- Average mutation rate varies: 0.0044 to 0.0054, from FTDNA derived rates
- Values on the diagonal indicate number of markers tested
- Probability is 90% that the TMRCA is no longer than indicated

 

 

 

 

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